So why should I buy this?

Discussion in 'Discussion (AdGuard for Windows)' started by d0x, Jan 15, 2018.

  1. d0x

    d0x Member

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    Can you convince me it's worth it? I'm running Win10.

    I bought 3 license's for Android but why should I buy it for PC?

    I currently use ublock origin in chrome & edge to block ads.

    I know this also blocks ads in apps but I never see ads in apps on PC.

    I also assume using this for chrome is slower than a chrome extension simply due to the way it works.
     
  2. gustms

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    Well, it is up to you to decide which one to choose. If ublock works for you, great! I personally prefer Adguard for Windows for these reasons:
    1) Works great on all browsers, no matter if Edge, Firefox or Chrome, with no extra hidden memory footprint for the browsers, only adguard services, which are very optimized in my opinion.

    2) I have access to userscripts on any app I want that uses webengines. For example, my e-mail app (Mailbird) has an integrated app to view Feedly. It is nothing more than a CEF Chromium that opens Feedly website. This way, with adguard, I get no ads in Feedly, and can also use the Clean Feedly 2017 userscript with excellent results.

    3) Spotify, even though I have premium, is constantly accessing their ads sites. Adguard blocks it correctly.

    4) Everytime I needed new filter rules, their support got it right in less than a day. It is awesome.
     
  3. Bayazid B. Halim

    Bayazid B. Halim New Member

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    Well, for one, on PC you can't use the app anymore unless you pay for the license (this applies to the AdGuard for Windows - and Mac - app, not the browser extension).

    I've found that compared to uBlock, AdGuard has a better UI that is easier to navigate through, and thus it's easier to fine-tune the setting. Stealth Mode is very much handy - I particularly love the 3rd-Party Cookie Auto-Destruction as it allows a balance between anti-tracking and preserving site functionality. Also, to me the biggest positive of AdGuard for Windows is that it is applicable to all browser apps. This includes Opera Neon, Steam Overlay Browser, and Torrent apps (though I haven't tried using it with the Tor browser). The Userscript implementation inherent to it also helps - as the Windows app applies to all browsers, I can use userscripts such as Iridium on Steam browser as well. There's also the DNSCrypt implementation that's coming soon, making it a very complete package.

    I used to use uBlock complemented with Ghostery, but I just use the Windows app which helps in managing the amount of extensions I use. It just streamlines everything so much.
     
  4. Boo Berry

    Boo Berry Moderator + Beta Tester Moderator

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    The AdGuard desktop apps for Windows and Mac are more "powerful" than the browser extensions. For example, it can take care of anti-adblock scripts like InstartLogic without needing a companion browser extension (or hardcoded methods of defusing InstartLogic that requires updates to be hardcoded in the adblocker extension itself for each update of InstartLogic). For AG for Windows and Mac, updates for InstartLogic come through the filters. Though, it's worth noting that Firefox browser extensions will be able to support $$script rules (including the AG browser extension for Firefox currently in beta), allowing defusing of InstartLogic through filter rules. Chrome extensions? Nope, sadly the Chromium developers haven't added what's required yet to get those working there so companion extensions (e.g. uBlock Origin Extra and Nano Defender) are needed with Chromium-based browsers. Also for example since AdGuard for Windows and Mac are external applications working at the network level, they can remove ads before the web browser(s) can load them, something browser extensions can't do (hence why with extensions you might see ads and stuff pop up on the screen for a split second as the page is loading, only to have the extension remove them). With AdGuard for Windows and Mac, they're never loaded at all, so there's some bandwidth savings there. I can't comment about the AG desktop applications being slower than a Chrome browser extension - they both work pretty fast (around the same speed) to me. But then again, I have a pretty terrible and slow connection, so I can't say for sure. :(

    Anyways, if using uBlock Origin is sufficient enough for all your needs, then I suggest sticking with that as it seems you're happy with the end results. Besides, uBO now includes some of AG's filters listed in the list of third-party filters which you can enable and use in uBO. And it works rather well there too, so it's up to you whether or not it'd be worth it.
     
  5. Ittech Gyan

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    Adguard isn’t technically an antivirus or anti-spyware tool, not equal to anti-malware applications. But completely honest, Adguard is focused on blocking ads, help filter malicious scripts from infecting your computer in the first place. As they say, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
     
  6. vasily_bagirov

    vasily_bagirov Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    @Ittech Gyan indeed AdGuard is an ad blocker first and foremost, but we put a great emphasis on users' privacy protection. We have dedicated anti-spyware filter, a whole Stealth Mode module (in AG for Windows at least), etc. I agree though that AG is not an antivirus in the slightest. Unfortunately many people still make this mistake and treat it like one.
     
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  7. haakon

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    I've been using Android Adguard on a couple of tablets (a deceased v4.4.4 Nexus7v2 and now a cheapo v7 Insignia) and a v6 Moto G3 phone since 2015.

    The free (Thank you!) extension has done duty in Firefox and Cyberfox on my Win7 i7 tower for about that long, the paid version being overkill for my needs.

    I've been using the DNSCrypt feature on the phone (WiFi and cell) and tablet (WiFi only) for a few months without issue and that feature could compel me to buy the Windows product.

    Any update about when that "coming soon" might be?
     
  8. vasily_bagirov

    vasily_bagirov Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    "Coming soon" wasn't said by AdGuard representative. To be honest, we have no plans so far of implementing this in AG for Windows. We simply don't see a reason to — you can already set up DNSCrypt by yourself. For example, a link to the setup guide can be found on our website: https://adguard.com/en/adguard-dns/overview.html#faq-2-11
     
  9. Boo Berry

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    The easiest way to setup DNSCrypt on Windows is using Simple DNSCrypt. It works fine alongside AG for Windows.

    In my opinion adding DNSCrypt support in AG for Windows doesn't make much sense as it'd only work for the apps that AG for Windows filters, and not system-wide where DNSCrypt is most effective. Makes much more sense to setup DNSCrypt to work system-wide to handle all DNS requests.

    So why try reinventing the wheel for nothing but limitations and disadvantages (mainly DNSCrypt for only filtered apps vs. DNSCrypt system-wide) when installing and using DNSCrypt on Windows is already simple enough using a tool like Simple DNSCrypt?
     
  10. haakon

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    I knew that. I first read #3 in February and kept a follow-up of this thread (and the Windows AG change logs). Fortunately an astute, inquisitive customer/fan (me) finally posted up so you could correct the blatant misinformation presented in a three month old post.

    With the existence of issue-free (so far) DNSCrypt in the Android product, that erroneous post duped me into hoping a commercial concern will be selling a solid and professionally supported implementation for Windows.

    I lost all interest in DNSCrypt a while ago. After a month or so I concluded it's only as good as the "public server" side and that stinks; no one's anecdotal evidence will convince me otherwise. DNSCrypt is for hobbyists.

    The wheel can't be reinvented. But its unsprung weight and load bearing and contact patch have seen benefit from improvements. Those on a Kawasaki ZX-10 or an F-250 pickup vs. those on a Neolithic cart, as examples.

    Anyhow, since I can't imagine using Android without AG on my devices, thanks for that 30% renewal discount. And, again, for the free extension.

    I appreciate the replies. Cheers.
     
  11. Bayazid B. Halim

    Bayazid B. Halim New Member

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    Well, I got it from reddit that there's a plan for it. Usertag says it's community manager, so...


    https://www.reddit.com/r/Adguard/co..._dont_worry_there_are_good/dspffre/?context=3

    Don't ask me if it's right or wrong.
    Eh, I use AdGuard DNS because, for my parents, it's the simplest way of blocking ads, phishing, and malware when they're browsing so it doesn't make any problems with their devices, while for me, I just like adblocking on DNS-level. As it happens, my ISP is a bitch that doesn't allow changing DNS normally so Simple DNSCrypt it is.
     
  12. vasily_bagirov

    vasily_bagirov Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    That was me :) I don't recall it now, but would guess that we had different plans back then. Apologies for causing this mess.
     
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  13. d0x

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    I want to thank everyone for their posts. I have been doing a ton of testing with the beta version on Win10 and so far im in love. I actually just bought 3 lifetime licenses for android and when my beta key expires ill probably buy a lifetime license for PC.

    There is definetly a smaller memory footprint than using extensions in the browser. I tested it against Ublock, Adnauseum, and Ghostery. Ive always been very fond of ghostery and ublock but even though Adguard warned me i had too many filters selected (because i selected things like russia, china, korea, etc) I still find that things load quicker now than they did with the extentions.

    Im also quite fond of userscripts and adblocking in one place without things breaking and adguard allows for that. Its just a great program...I really cant say enough good things about the android and now the Windows versions.